Forza Motorsport General Discussion Thread

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The game looks really good and much much closer to the reveal trailers (outside RTGI and some diffused reflections ofcourse).
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Just did the Ginetta series. I don't know if the fact that it's a single car series made the AI work better, but if what I just saw is indicative of how it is now in the game in general, then wow, it's a massive improvement. Not so much a difference in pace, I was able to do a fastest lap around 1 second quicker than the max difficulty AI, but they seem so so so so so much better at driving around other cars. They still gave way to me a bit too readily when I went down the inside into a corner, no staying side by side at full speed through corners like the ACC AI can, but it's still an enormous improvement compared to prior to this update.
 
breeminator
Just did the Ginetta series. I don't know if the fact that it's a single car series made the AI work better, but if what I just saw is indicative of how it is now in the game in general, then wow, it's a massive improvement. Not so much a difference in pace, I was able to do a fastest lap around 1 second quicker than the max difficulty AI, but they seem so so so so so much better at driving around other cars. They still gave way to me a bit too readily when I went down the inside into a corner, no staying side by side at full speed through corners like the ACC AI can, but it's still an enormous improvement compared to prior to this update.
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I'm just working through the single player Corvette series, I did race 1 before the update and trailed 1st by about a sec the entire race. Did race 2 today and was 3 seconds ahead per lap, I had to check to see if it reset to the lowest level but was still at max AI. I don't know if they are more consistent but slower, but I'm pretty sure just tuning the suspension didn't make me that much faster.
 
willbsn13
Also, in other news. T10 are supposedly going to be remodelling a few of the older cars with inaccuracies that have been pointed out in the community for years. This will probably be a long process that'll take years to actually see in game, but cool they confirmed the news today.



T10 Quote:

List of cars so far they'll be attempting to remodel, according to the closed topics on the Forza Motorsport Suggestions Hub

  • BMW M3 1992 (E30)
  • Dodge Viper GTS ACR ‘99
  • Ferrari 575M Maranello 2002
  • Ford Focus RS 2003
  • Mazda RX-7 1997 (FD3S)
  • Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI MR 1999
  • Nissan Silvia Spec-R 2000 (S15)
  • Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec 1993 (R32)
  • Toyota Sprinter Trueno Apex 1985 (AE86)
Now the quote from the T10 employee does seem to imply we won't see them in FM2023, but perhaps the next iteration of FM. He might be wrong or slightly uninformed (AFAIK she is just a community relations manager so not a senior management developer) but it does pose the question, how long are T10 going to support FM2023?
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Since people on this forum spent months twisting themselves into knots trying to insist that Turn 10 already did remodel them from scratch even though they obviously didn't just from the trailers of the game, I wonder if this third time that Turn 10 remodel them from scratch they won't also (somehow, even though art fundamentally doesn't work that way) have identical meshes to models from Forza 3.
 
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Forza Motorsport Hotfix 8.1 Release Notes – May 16, 2024
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We are rolling out Hotfix 8.1 for Forza Motorsport on Xbox Series X|S and PC. This version fixes an issue that resulted in some OEM manufacturer paints appearing overly metallic.

PLEASE NOTE we are aware of an additional paint issue related to decals that we are also working on at this time but is NOT contained in this hotfix.

Version Number:

  • Xbox Series X|S: 1.591.459.0
  • PC (Microsoft Store): 1.591.459.0
  • Steam: 1.591.459.0
Bug Fixes and Improvements

Cars [All Platforms]

  • Fixed an issue that resulted in some OEM manufacturer paints appearing overly metallic.
 
I'm feeling sadistic joy at seeing the AI run off the track in fear as I do a legitimate overtake,
Revenge for all the past brake checking 😂

Regarding the Hotfix, hope they identify why (some?) xbox SX users experience crashing when exiting events, and fix...

Strangely, my series S in the bedroom doesn't crash, while my X does.
 
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DextroCat
So they moved the KTM X-Bow GT2 and Lamborghini Essenza out of Forza GT for multiplayer but not single player free play. So they’re still in the Forza GT car Division. Thanks T10!
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I really dont understand their logic with this one, it should be across the board. I hate seeing these cars in the wrong divisions. And then knowing its been changed in online makes my head spin even more.
 
RolexGTP
I really dont understand their logic with this one, it should be across the board. I hate seeing these cars in the wrong divisions. And then knowing its been changed in online makes my head spin even more.
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The patch notes mentioned that they are planning a bigger Forza GT change, and this was just a tiny part of that. But it's a future change sadly.
 
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Tornado
Since people on this forum spent months twisting themselves into knots trying to insist that Turn 10 already did remodel them from scratch even though they obviously didn't just from the trailers of the game, I wonder if this third time that Turn 10 remodel them from scratch they won't also (somehow, even though art fundamentally doesn't work that way) have identical meshes to models from Forza 3.
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Who was doing that? All I remember was acceptance that the models were outdated and that, to quite a few people, most were good enough anyway. The 22B was the only car people believed to be remodeled... because it was.
 
Now this is the first time I've had the mirror track at Road America. They also need to find a better place to give you control of the car there as you're about to start practice. The car is already wiggling and out of shape as you try to make that last corner. Maybe going down into Canada Corner?

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AutumnalGlow
Who was doing that? All I remember was acceptance that the models were outdated and that, to quite a few people, most were good enough anyway. The 22B was the only car people believed to be remodeled... because it was.
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Perhaps unsurprisingly, many of the same people who did so in 2013. In the one conversation that I'm referencing specifically from just before the game's release, someone went so far as to overlay the wireframe meshes of models from Forza 4 with a mesh from Forza 7 to show they were literally identical in most places and the particularly clueless response of "you are going to see a lot of the same mistakes being made over and over due to the source material that they use" was given to the typical applause. Tl;dr, my post was mocking those specific people who would know they were being mocked rather than general commentary on the forum sentiment at large.


Though on that topic, it's particularly amusing to see TokoTurismo like this post when he knows damn well who I'm talking about, considering his unique position of having bandwagoned on both sides of the argument.
 
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Today i tryed the new patch. Feels like the same crap game then before. Still a deadbirth like on release. Super toxic MP, ramming, divebomb, reckless, feels like everyone just unload their frustration to the game. There are no good players left, only gamepass kids with joypad. Empty rooms at primetime... this game is dead.
Ai at 8 and they still drive badly. No clean overtake, no racecraft, no proper driving, still braking mid corner, they just bang you out of the way. No wonder people in MP also drive like that, the game learn them to drive like that.
I cant imagine what kind of person still play this garbage serious.
 
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Watzlaw
Today i tryed the new patch. Feels like the same crap game then before. Still a deadbirth like on release. Super toxic MP, ramming, divebomb, reckless, feels like everyone just unload their frustration to the game. There are no good players left, only gamepass kids with joypad. Empty rooms at primetime... this game is dead.
Ai at 8 and they still drive badly. No clean overtake, no racecraft, no proper driving, still braking mid corner, they just bang you out of the way. No wonder people in MP also drive like that, the game learn them to drive like that.
I cant imagine what kind of person still play this garbage serious.
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deadbirth? That's a new word i've never seen before.

"this game is dead." - Well I see many folks enjoying it here and elsewhere, plus I still get into packed lobbies, for a dead game Microsoft must have some kind of bot farm to make the lobbies full, but I dunno, they seem like real people to me.

"I cant imagine what kind of person still play this garbage serious." - Please expand, I'm curious what you think about the kind of person who "still play this garbage serious"

On a more positive note, the changes they made to the track luminance as they say are looking good, I'm only playing on cloud atm but it certainly is looking much better, especially in low-light scenario's is looking fantastic.
 
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